that is my "2 cents more." and that is it for tonight on "the willis report." thank you for joining us. do not forget to record the show to catch us live. have a great night. see you tomorrow. ♪ lou: good evening, everybody. thank you for being with us. president obama and some -- there reserve chairman bernanke gave talks today. the president in berlin, bernanke in washington. their performances are not well received by their respective audiences. today marking the seventh consecutive day that the dow jones industrial average moved triple digits. the dow jones induutrials plummeted more than 200 points on the day. the sell-off was driven by investor frustration and some disappointments at the remarks of fed chairman ben bernanke. bernanke delivered a statement full of seemingly positive elements, a continuation of bond

buying in the outlook for continued improvement and economic growth. but investors are not having any of it. president obama received a lousy reception in berlin and back at all. in berlin he delivered a speech that seemingly no one found relevant or compelling. the estimated crowd of only 4,500 on the east side of the brandenburg gate, a far cry from the 200,000 who came out to see then candidate obama speak on the west side of the gate back in 2,008, a striking contrast. president obama today said he wants to negotiate with russia to further reduce the number of strategic nuclear weapons that both nations hold. the united states with more than 1900. the russians with more than 1700 ready to launch.

>> i have determined that we can ensure the security of america and our allies and maintain a strong and credible strategic deterrent while reducing our deploy strategic nuclear weapons by up to one-third. i intend to seek negotiated cuts with russia to move beyond cold war nuclear postures. lou: the image of the president that you saw their filtered through a bulletproof glass that was erected for his protection. russian deputy prime minister dmitri reno's in said moments after mr. obama's speech that the president's proposal to reduce nuclear arms cannot be taken seriously while the president continues to build up u.s. missile defenses. tonight we will be covering the disappointing performances of both president obama and chairman bernanke on opposite sides of the atlantic. we will also be talking with a former director of national -ntelligence, ambassador john negroponte talking about the

prospects of american involvement in the syrian civil war and no world of seccets that now have become all too transparent for the intelligence community. the chairman of the judiciary subcommittee on immigration and border security joins us. congressman trade goudy. we take a look at some troubling numbers in the congressional budget office analysis of the gang of eight immigration bill. and congressman goudies success in moving his safe act to the house floor. former pentagon official katie mcfarland and brigadier-general david grains joins us to take up chinese reaction to nsa leaker edward snowdon's claims what american involvement in this serious civil war might lead to in the tense standoff between president obama and that russian president. venturing into the sometimes disturbing story of what is happening to the american family and the values that are, if not

lost, wayward and wondering. it will take it up with manhattan institute fellow k i'm let's be really begin with the president's nuclear arms reduction proposal. to adding to his growing foreign policy checklist, including arming the syrian rebels, controversy of peace talks with the tell a man. here now to discuss these issues in the nsa defense of national security surveillance programs is ambassador john negroponte, the first director of u.s. national intelligence serving under president george w. bush and five time ambassador. ambassador, great to have you with us. >> thank you. lou: let me turn first to what we are -- the president's statements today about reducing effectively partially disarm in the nuclear weaponry with the russians. your reaction to the proposal of the concept?

>> well, i do not think there is anything terribly that, and i am not too concerned about what further reductions we might negotiate with the russians. i still think that they will be in the ballpark of leading us with plenty of nuclear capability, but as you yourself mentioned in your opening there, the russians at least initially have reacted to this by linking this matter to the question of our development or not developing further misfile defenses. so iiam sure that we will enter into a fairly complex discussion here. with in the past these kinds of talks with the russians have the eventually lead to some kind of further reduction of nuclear arms. lou: and the president today having to explain to the people of europe what edward snowden

revealed, and that is that the nsa has been carrying out surveillance. do we have that tape please of the president today? is that available? let's hear what the president said. would like to get your reaction to it right after we listen to it. >> i was a critic of the previous administration for those occasions in which i felt they had violated our values, and i came and with a healthy skepticism about hal our various programs were sponsored. but what i have been able to do is examine and scrub our intelligence services are operating, and i am confident that at this point we have struck the appropriate balance. lou: he did not quite blame president bush, did he?

>> well, buu he defended the program. he defended our national interest here, i think, which is to be able to continue this program. of course their is a lot of misunderstanding about the program is about. it is not about reading everybody's mail and intersecting all their phone calls. it is about keeping them at a date, the so-called records of these calls to match them against -- to see if any calls come in from some suspicious area, like was here is ten and the border area between pakistan and afghanistan and to check against a possible terrorist phone calls. lou: are you astonished at the congress? and by congress and i am referring to republicans and democrats. in the president and self has done so little to defend the nsa, the two programs that are the focus of this edward snowden

leak. it has been a very tepid defense for an agency, an organization that spends so much time and money and energy protecting the country. it is as if politics overwhelms all concerned for the national interest here. >> well, there has certainly been a lot of commotion, but on the other hand, i can think of some examples where congressional chairman in chair women have actually defended the program rather strongly, like senator dianne feinstein. lou: no one has been more -- i think we need to say, no one stepped up sooner or spoke more directly than sheet as the head of the senate intelligence committee. >> and i would say that general alexander has been doing a pretty darn good job. lou: by the way, i would agree with you. again, in that instance he is defending his agency. he is not -- i would -- i would

have expected to seek far more of our elected officials standing first for him and suddenly standing beside him in defending the agency and to me it has been remarkable, the politics, the transparent politics of all this. >> but i don't think we're going to change our modus operandi in any regard, and that think that the program will definitely continue. we may have to tighten up a little bit on some of our security procedures because house some of this information could get into the hands of peoole stationed in hawaii or private manning who downloaded all that information in a remote area. i mean, this is really got to be put to an end. this kind of leakage. lou: no doubt. ambassador kamal is good to talk with you. >> thank you. a pleasure. lou: fbi director, he is learning all sorts of things.

apparently on capitol hill today where he acknowledged for the first time that the fbi uses surveillance drones domestically . also proving to be something of a quick learner. last week he was unable to provide congress and the answers about the fbi criminal investigation into the irs political starting scandal. this time, however, he was able to tell the senate judiciary committee that more than a dozen fbi agents are assigned to that investigation. but unfortunately, he still could not offer congress an answer as to whether fbi agents had yet actually spoken to the victims of irs political starting. the irs, the focus of a major key party demonstrations and protests on the nation's capital. supporters calling for an audit of the irs. that protest, coming the same

day that it is revealed the internal revenue service is about to pay out $70 million in employee bonuses. needless to say, the news gave a lot of water for tea party members targeted by the irs. >> government, the peoples grew up repeatedly, then denial of responsibility and then have the gall to ask for more money and more responsibility. it is insane. lou: senator chuck grassley said the bonuses should be canceled outright and now under a white house order to cancel such payouts because of sequestration . the irs, however, in its new leaders, arguing is legally required to hand the money over under a collective bargaining agreement with employees. the house of representatives is leading on the issue of immigration reform. the senate just doesn't know it.

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♪ lou: seven years ago congress, including then senator barack obama voted to build 700 miles of 2-tiered fencing along our 2,000-mile border with mexico. you might be interested to know that only 36 miles of that fence has since been constructed. while the senate continues to vote down amendment after amendment on border security, including the gang of eight voting against border security amendments, the grassley amendment, that the amendment, it gets more and more disappointing to those concerned

about border security first. we turn our attention back to the house of representatives, the judiciary committee passing its first immigration bill, this a fact, aimed at improving interior enforcement of our nation's immigration laws. joining us now, one of the sponsors of the measure, congressman, member of the judiciarow in the midst of marking up the so-called ea act, and literally at this moment, a temporary agricultural guest worker program. congressman, also chairman of the subcommittee on immigration, member of the house oversight committee. we appreciate you taking the time to step out of the committee and the markup to bring us up-to-date. first, congratulations on moving this a fact from your committee. where you stand with the agricultural bill? >> well, we are moments away from voting on final passage of a guest worker program, which is the chairman's bill. that will pass, so we will in the last two days have done what i think people expect us to do,

which is half hours and hours and hours of debate offer amendments, the victim, take votes. it is all done and in the open command people to -- people are free to agree disagree. we will have passed and internal security bill. you will have passed a guest worker bill, and that security has already passed their border security bill. so we are taking it step by step, but we have taken pretty important steps. lou: and important steps, and in contrast to the gang of eight legislation in the senate, quite surprisingly, i think, to some without that this was going to be a sincere effort on the part of the gang of eight there, border security amendment after@ border security men and voted down and by the gang of eight which was supposed to be a bipartisan, if you will, construction. your reaction? >> well, i can tell you my experience, and i go back to

south carolina every weekend people are open-minded and other components of immigration reform , but border security is someone. and it is also number two and number three. now, 40 percent of the 11 million did not cross the border. their visa overstays, so you have to have internal security mechanisms. for national security reasons and dozed off of other you have to have a secure border command i can tell you that from the house perspective , genital fasano is not going to be the person to tell us whether or not the borders secure. lou: no matter how much both the president and the members of the gang of eight and also, of course, the secretary would like to be. where do you stand with the e-verify program and how important a component is to what you and the chairman wants to achieve? >> it is essential. this whole reform package will

not succeed if you don't have e- verify. to the extent that jaws of the magnet that draws people here or causes them to overstay their visas, you have to be able to insure that your work force is legal. ordinarily i am not supportive of mandates from the federal government, but immigration and naturalization is decidedly federal, and the only way to insure a workplace that is legal is with e-verify. it takes a couple of minutes. as a 99 percent success rate, and nothing else that we do has a 99 percent success rate. we have to have it. without e-rarefy the other parts like a guest worker and the internal security will work. >> as we watch this process unfold think we have to get chairman bob of law, congressman deadlock credit for taking on this incremental and thoughtful and careful approach to legislation. regular order and the way

business is supposed to be done on big issues in this country. do you -- what do you expect as you move forward here? do you believe that theehouse will be taking the point going forward? the gang of eight bill will proceed? what are your expectations? is your leader supportive of the approach to you have taken? the thoughtful and delivered an incremental approach. >> he is. fact, he is insistent upon it, and he is both publicly and privately supportive of it. i just passed him on the floor of the house. he came over and shook my arm like he does from time to time and says, you're doing a good job. his reference to that is to the entire judiciary committee. i appreciate you mentioning the chairman. is much more difficult to do it the way we're doing it. yesterday was an incredibly long day, but that is what people pay us to do.

to debate it and -- i.d. not think the speaker is going with the fiscal cliff, it was a senate bill that was dropped on the floor of the house. they did not have majority republican support. tennant think the speaker will let that happen. on the other side it is incumbent upon us with in the conservative movement and the republican conference to convince our colleagues on the republican side that the status quo is unacceptable. so those who say, well, let's just do nothing so you don't go to conference with the senate, doing nothing is the current system which inspires confidence in absolutely no one. lou: it is my sense that most americans -- if the issue of border security can be resolved will be open to a pathway to legallzation. we will leave open the issue of citizenship. but the democrats and this president who have -- and others before him to have gained the

issue of border security, being reckless and, i think, absolutely cowardly in putting the american sovereignty and our national security at risk, it is a difficult thing to watch. some of these senators in particular who are playing a mighty, mighty weak political games. >> where not going to be fooled again. we were fooled in 1986. we have been fooled before. we will not be fooled again. border sscurity as to be in place. internal securities. then you can have a conversation about showing the humanity that many people, myself included, would like to show, but i'm not going to ask people to trust me in an environment where they don't trust anyone, and they should not trust anyone. and not going to ask and to trust me. i'm going to prove to them that we have the border secure and the internal security is in place and then the humanity and compassion of the american people will dictate what we do beyond that.

lou: congressman, as always, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. take care. lou: now look at wall street. stocks today selling off after the fed chairman said that they might just start tapering bond purchases. if the economy continues to improve as it has, no one seems to like what bernanke said except the shorts. the dow jones industrials experiencing its seventh straight triple digit move. its ninth 200-. swing in the last 20 days. today falling 206 points. the s&p lost 23, the nasdaq down 40 call volume on the big board picking up to three and a half billion shares a day. gold up $7, closing at $1,374 per ounce. crude oil down $0.20 settling at $98.24 per barrel. in the bond market the yield on the 10-year is soaring to over two and a half%, the highest since march of last year. stocks, bonds to our crude oil all down. gold up a little.

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♪ >> in a time when nearly 14 percent of the american people do not have a full-time job, at a time when the middle class continues to disappear, it makes no sense to me that the immigration reform bill includes a massive increase off in temporary guest worker programs. lou: that is liberal independent senator bernie sanders slamming the gang of eight immigration bill. unfortunately real concerns about that legislation are being drowned out by the spin from the white house, the gang of eight themselves and the mainssream liberal media. supporters of immigration reform

are also outspending opponents by more than three to one. get this. lobbyists have spend over one-half billion since the last time immigration reform legislation was moved to the senate. one-and-a-half billion dollars. that is more than has been spent on any other issue over that time frame. think about it. one-and-a-half billion dollars in lobbying money. well, the cbo came out with its core of the legislation, and is filled with gimmicks and conceals true costs for struggling americans over the next decade. i mean, it is shameless what has happened in the senate. it is disgusting that they still want to play games instead of deal with issues. now what you to just from me to all of you and the gang of age who are playing games and running a scam, i find you absolutely, frankly, just disgusting. let's take a look at the cbo

report for. the immigration bill, the immigration bill would cut deficits by $200 billion. not only are those numbers highly suspicious, but they are to be realized over the next decade if at all. the bill would not solve the illegal immigration. in fact, the congressional budget office acknowledges that 75% of the illegal immigration in this country right now will continue. so what is the gang of a bill about, if it will only reduce illegal immigration by 25 percent. and you just watched the gang of eight vote down every major border security men and. you don't need much of a road map to understand what they're doing, what there is damning, and what they're gaining. the bill would pave the way to

add up an estimated 46 million new or legalized people to the united states over the next 20 years. think about that. 46 million. they keep talking about 11 million. well, the population right now is 314 million. that would be one new immigrant as a result of this legislation for every six americans. if that makes sense to you, fine. the bill would actually raise unemployment according to the congressional budget office estimate through 2020. you don't hear the gang invaded knowledge that it be the congressional budget office estimates, and fact, that average wages in this country would fall by one-tenth of a percent of the first decade of the life of this legislation. maybe that is why senator sanders is so outraged. and why aren't others?

he is urging the democratic party to think twice about the legislation. of course, when you are working for other people like the gang of eight is, you don't have to think. you just have to follow orders. president obama calls for nuclear disarmament as he supports the fighting in syria. fox national security analyst katie mcfarlane and former general david grainger on the obama strategy. my mantra?

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sustained 40 baht to 540 miles-per-hour winds moving west as peter ten miles-per-hour. returning to the president's trip to berlin, the president refused to specify the exact nature of the military aid to syria rebels saying reports suggesting the united states is heading into a new war are, as he put it, overplaying. joining me now, former pentagon official, fox's national security analyst. general david grainger retired u.s. army brigadier general, former commander of the first-ever entry division, combat veteran, action in vietnam, granada, yugoslavia, good to have you both with us. let me start with the president's performance in berlin today. it was as if i could hear come on around the globe as the president spoke. your reaction? >> the ever shrinking obama presidency. you know, berlin is where presidents go to make great historic speeches. john f. kennedy, ronald reagan.

and now barack obama, and there was nothing there. it was just a lot of platitudes. the only thing he said of any significance was that he was going to unilaterally cut u.s. nuclear forces and then hopefully negotiate with the russians to maybe get their arsenal. i say to that fat chance. lou: general. >> well, i think it has to be a trade-off if you're going to reduce tte nuclear force, but if it is done and it may be a cave as long as three conditions are maintained, one is that you maintain a very robust, modernized, defensive nuclear capability. missile shield. for yourself and your allies. the other is that you maintain air, sea, and land attack capability. modernized including advanced bunker busting types subterranean munitions and others that are needed in today's modern battlefield, and those that you think you're going to move into in the future. if those conditions are met then a third reduction may not

matter. lou: and this possible reduction, the russians immediately dismiss it because of the president's own initiative in building u.s. missile defenses. they said he cannot be taken seriously. this sounds like a nonstarter and that the president might be well served not to negotiate with the russians as they're not interested. >> the russians always knew our missile defenses. it really makes them go -- when president reagan tried to talk about star wars, the one and a stop. ultimately our insistence on a was probably what broke the camel's back in the collapse of the civil -- soviet union, so that is theirs or sticking point. whether obama will be able to negotiate, the body language, those guys can't even stand to be in the same room. lou: general, syria, the idea that president obama in just move support for the syrians, now amounts to about 800 million, more than half of

that committed in the last two months of what has been a 2-year-long civil war. where are we headed with this? what are your thoughts as tte president obviously wants to advance, in some ways, u.s. involvement in the conflict? >> well, you have three choices. do nothing, and i don't think the united states of america is in a position to make that choice. support the current regime which we cannot do obviously because the brutality of it and the support of the regime in particular. or you support the insurgent groups. the trouble with supporting insurgent groups is which groups? the moderates or extremists? so when you make that choice you have to live with the consequences after the fight. so if the regime falls, are those groups going to turn your? and that is the second effect of the risk analysis that is very tough. i know what i would do, and that

would be to support moderate insurgent groups. >> the problem with that is the moderate insurgent groups are by far the minority. there the least well-armed, the least well-organized, and they are the least powerful. i just spent a week in israel and was on the syrian border with the rebel forces are fighting the syrian forces. at this point i think it is a choice between, as the general said, the chemical weapons using murderous government or the rebels, and the rebels are, for the most part, affiliated with terrorists. despite if you have two enemies fighting and trying to kill each other, i don't think the united states needs to get in the middle of it. lou: that we share with you both in the audience the latest fox news poll. i think it has surprised president obama. i'm sure many people. according to our latest fox news poll, most disagree with president obama and say that the

war on terrorismmis not over. and i am not talking about a small majority. we're talking about 77 percent consider the want chair as being ongoing and a top priority. the united states in taking military action in this instance 72 percent say take military action. 70 percent oppose taking action in syria. 72 percent say they support the united states taking military action against the iranians to prevented from getting nukes. the point being, the focus of u.s. interest there is a iran come and it could be a colossal disaster, could it not, for the united states to forget where its interest is focused? >> i agree with that, and, again, it is a tough decision on risk analysis. military support comes in a lot of different options. it is not just weapons. a lot of command-and-control communications.

and you can do a lot of things not only overtly, but covertly with her probably are and should can be against has block, against surrogate trainers. a lot of ways to do this. i think you pick up the pressure , but you do it very finely in targeted actions. lou: the last word. >> nuclear-weapons will be the defining issue of the presidency. so far he has not stopped them. lou: thank you very much. thank you, general. appreciated. >> cirque. lou: take a second to go to our social sites. go to foxbusiness.com. funneling star facebook page. e-mail me. all of your thoughts, comments, suggestions. follow me on twitter. up next, federal reserve chairman speaks and the market does not like it. wall street veteran joins us nnxt. ♪ dry mouth definitely affected my self confidence.

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♪ lou: well, watching ben bernanke today, and not many people like what they heard. interest rates remaining the same. $85 billion per month bond purchases. it is all good. maybe a little tapering later in the year. the market sell-off that followed the fed chairman's news conference, rather dramatic. easy money that we are talking about is not likely to continue. we are joined by harvey eisen who has the perspective, the inside to offer us why in the world after everything that the fed chairman said. >> number one, the market is with reality, now what nonsense. bernanke is finished. it's over. we talked about this on your show before. lou: the president made it very

clear in his interview. >> probably watched the show. lou: i'm sure he did. i wish you would take on some other ideas. he is finished. the fed chairman knows nothing but positive things. why in the world with the market want to react as it did? >> because -- this is an inflection point. the reality is that the crisis is over and he is still dealing with it like it is the crisis was it -- which is madness. they'reegoing to be mind the first thing is the bond market. dow made a new hiih in yields. this is just the beginning of the party. lou: having a fit because a 30-year bull market may be over. >> and nice guy. lou: a great guy. >> but he is taking his victory lap.

lou: and the shorts may have been excited. we have people remans talking about, oh, my goodness, bernanke, happens now? >> the market is fairly valued if you take the historic multiple of 15 or 16 times $106 estimate. so you're there. number two, the bond market is a monster bubble. therefore when it begins to elapse, which i think it has started, it's going to be devastating. lou: devastating to people in the bond market. what about people and equities? >> equities have already signaled a change. so equities in the last 30 days in the market has shifted to

cyclicals and technology and financials and away from a lot of the other stuff. for now is a big change. lou: a big change command inflection point, and you see positive things for the equities market. negative things for the bond market. >> i see positive things in the sense that the market is going to be a carry. you probably have seen most of it's not all of the gains for the year. short term the market is going to be slack. willlam l. -- rally before the end of the year, but this is the fifth year marketssare up 150%. you have not had gdp growth of 3% in 6 years. something has to give. lou: we will see what does. always great to see you. thank you for being with us. >> short. lou: up next, one florida international university professor coins the fate -- frays forced fatherhood.

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♪ lou: well, joining me now, a %-institute, the author of manng up, how the rise of women has turned men into boys. and it is great to have you back with and we want to talk about these relationships between men and women in the workplace, our society. also, want to talk about tonight the new york times op-ed altered by a professor and florida

international. is forced father with fair? a provocative article where maine, she asserts, have some considerable more balanced rights of women. your thoughts? >> she is really reflecting, speaking to a change in our situation, the situation between men and women. in a world where you have casual sex widely accepted, abortion, of course, legal. single motherhood is widely accepted. it really does pose a lot of questions about what the response will the role is for men and their relationship, but think that is where she is reporting to and fanatically explore. she is definitely speaking to a dilemma that is raised by a lot of changes in our understanding of marriage and children. lou: marriage, the lowest

marriage rate by the most recent count in the country's history. the second part of it is coming is a class divide as well. more affluent people and burying. their divorce unless. they're having children gridlock you know, those who are disadvantaged are not. it is a real dividing the country. lou: it is interesting that though we always hear that marriage rates are at their lowest, and it is true they have gone down, actually, 80 percent of women will marry at some point or do marry at some point. 80 percent to is the large majority. the interesting thing is that so many women now marry after they have their children and not necessarily to the father of their children. that is the part of this that i think a lot of people don't understand.

particularly among the lower income and working-class folks that you were just referring to, you are more likely to see women and men have their children when they are in their early to mid 20's but then put off marriage and tell their late 20's or possibly even 30's. lou: is that a trend that uc extended to the point that it will become a majority, if you will, behavior in our society? >> i think it is a concern. the reason, though, i believe that people who are more educated to marry before they have children is because they know what is better for the kids, even though they don't always actually admit that. they just think it is right. so i think they know on some level that kids are better off when there is a stable situation, when the data is there and hopefully will stay there. lou: where is the family, which

has always been the foundation of our society? we had this sense that our society is dissolving around us in some ways, certainly the churches are ebbing in their influence, our legal profession is not held in the same regard. congress has a 10 percent approval rating. we are a society right now that is under assault. we don't know quite yet what the motives are or who the culprits are, but we sure know who the victims are. >> in the case of the family this goes back some 40, 50 years. there are so many culprits that it would be impossible to even less than. we are all participants at the very least. lou: zero is here to see you. we look forward to continuing our conversation. thank you so much. >> thank you. lou: that is it for us.

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